Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/01/2005 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+= SB 97 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS/CBR TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 98 SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS: FAST TRACK TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 47 EXTEND BOARD OF REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 47(FIN) Out of Committee
+= SB 51 PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 51(FIN) Out of Committee
                              MINUTES                                                                                         
                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                           March 1, 2005                                                                                      
                             9:06 a.m.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green convened the meeting at approximately 9:06:19 AM.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Con Bunde, Vice-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Also  Attending:  REPRESENTATIVE   RALPH  SAMUELS;  CHERYL   FRASCA,                                                          
Director, Office  of Management and Budget, Office  of the Governor;                                                            
KEVIN BROOKS,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department  of Administration;                                                             
NANCY  SLAGLE,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of Transportation  and Public Facilities; JOHN MACKINNON,                                                            
Deputy Commissioner  of Highways & Public Facilities,  Department of                                                            
Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Attending   via  Teleconference:   There   were  no  teleconference                                                           
participants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HB 47-EXTEND BOARD OF REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  heard  from the sponsor  and reported  the bill  from                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 51-PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The  Committee  adopted  one  amendment  and  reported  a  committee                                                            
substitute from Committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 98-SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS: FAST TRACK                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The Committee reviewed  but did not adopt a committee substitute and                                                            
discussed proposed amendments  from the Administration. The bill was                                                            
held in Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SB 97-SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS/CBR                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The  Committee  heard  a budget  overview  from  the  Department  of                                                            
Transportation   and  Public  Facilities.  The   bill  was  held  in                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 47(FIN)                                                                                              
     "An  Act  extending  the  termination  date  of  the  Board  of                                                            
     Certified   Real  Estate  Appraisers;   and  relating   to  the                                                            
     requirements  for  membership on  the Board  of Certified  Real                                                            
     Estate Appraisers."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RALPH  SAMUELS, the  bill's  sponsor, characterized                                                             
this as  being "a straight  forward" bill.  He noted that a  revised                                                            
Department  of Commerce, Community  and Economic Development  fiscal                                                            
note has been provided.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  reminded the Committee that the original  Department                                                            
of Commerce, Community  and Economic Development fiscal note, Fiscal                                                            
Note #1 dated  January 20 2005, did not reflect the  FY 06 operating                                                            
expenses  associated  with  the legislation.  The  Department's  new                                                            
fiscal note, dated February  22, 2005, specifies that FY 06 expenses                                                            
would amount to $32,800.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  to  report the  bill  from  Committee  with                                                            
individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  objection,  CS  HB  47  (FIN)  was  REPORTED  from                                                            
Committee  with new $32,800  Department of  Commerce, Community  and                                                            
Economic Development fiscal note, dated February 22, 2005.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 51                                                                                                         
     "An  Act  relating to  contracts  for  the provision  of  state                                                            
     public   assistance  to  certain   recipients  in  the   state;                                                            
     providing for regional  public assistance plans and programs in                                                            
     the  state;  relating   to grants   for  Alaska  Native  family                                                            
     assistance  programs; relating  to assignment of child  support                                                            
     by  Alaska Native  family  assistance recipients;  relating  to                                                            
     paternity   determinations   and  genetic   testing   involving                                                            
     recipients of assistance under Alaska Native family assistance                                                             
     programs; and providing for an effective date."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the second  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  stated  that  this  legislation  would  expand  the                                                            
Temporary  Assistance  for  Needy  Families program  to  new  groups                                                            
desiring to participate  in the Tribal Communities  program. Some of                                                            
these programs  have experienced "diminished"  federal funding,  and                                                            
therefore, the  concern is that the State might be  required to both                                                            
supplant  further  federal  funding  decreases  and  increase  State                                                            
funding in order to continue the programs.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1: This amendment  inserts a new section into the bill on                                                            
page nine, following line 18 as follows.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     (p)  Nothing  in  this  section  requires   the  department  to                                                            
     continue  to  fund an  Alaska Native  family  assistance  grant                                                            
     program  at a level funded before  the current grant  period or                                                            
     to replace  federal funds for  the program with state  funding.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken moved to adopt Amendment #1.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green read the Amendment language.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  whether alternate  plans  have been  developed                                                            
through which to assist  families were federal funding discontinued.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken responded  that, in that  event, the program  would                                                            
either require  adjusting or alternate  funding must be identified.                                                             
He expressed  concern  that were the  federal funding  for this  and                                                            
other programs  to continue to erode, that "the default  position of                                                            
this  Committee"  would  be to  "just  automatically  backfill  with                                                            
general fund money."  Were a reduced funding situation  to arise, it                                                            
should  be  understood  that instead  of  being  the time  to  write                                                            
checks, it would be the  time to re-analyze the program, its funding                                                            
mechanisms, and its funding  levels. This amendment would allow that                                                            
process to begin.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  whether the  adoption of  the amendment  would                                                            
preclude the State from providing replacement funding.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green clarified  that rather  than  prohibiting that  from                                                            
occurring,  the  language  would clarify  that  there  would be  "no                                                            
assumption  that the State will continue  the program to  the extent                                                            
in that  current period."  Diminishing federal  support of  programs                                                            
would  continue  to  place  "tremendous  pressure"  on  the  State's                                                            
general fund.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Amendment #1 was ADOPTED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  moved  to  report   the  bill,  as  amended,  from                                                            
Committee with  individual recommendations  and accompanying  fiscal                                                            
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection,  CS SB 51(FIN) was REPORTED from Committee                                                            
with four Division  of Public Assistance,  Department of  Health and                                                            
Social Services  fiscal notes, dated December 10,  2004: Fiscal Note                                                            
#1 in the amount  of $4,093,800, Tribal  Assistance Program;  Fiscal                                                            
Note  #2  in  the amount   of negative  $1,346,400,   Work  Services                                                            
Program; Fiscal  Note #3 in the amount  of negative $6,727,000,  the                                                            
Alaska Temporary  Assistance Program  (ATAP); and Fiscal  Note #4 in                                                            
the amount of negative $931,500, Child Care Benefits Program.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 9:13:10 AM / 9:14:40 AM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken chaired the remainder of the meeting.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 98                                                                                                         
     "An   Act   making    supplemental   appropriations,    capital                                                            
     appropriations,  other  appropriations,  and reappropriations;                                                             
     amending  appropriations; making  appropriations to  capitalize                                                            
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the fourth  hearing for  this bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Wilken   clarified  that   while   department   overviews                                                            
pertaining  to the  fast  track supplemental  bill  have  concluded,                                                            
several amendments from  the Governor Frank Murkowski Administration                                                            
have been received  and would be explained  to the Committee.  After                                                            
the bill was heard, the  Committee would recess until late afternoon                                                            
in order to allow Members to further review the legislation.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  reviewed  the  committee   substitute  work  draft                                                            
Version 24-GS1133\F and  its accompanying spreadsheet dated March 1,                                                            
2005 [copies on file],  and limited his remarks to those requests to                                                            
which changes had been made.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE:  Confusion  occurred  as  to whether  the  February  7,  2005                                                            
spreadsheet  [copy on  file] or the  March 1,  2005 spreadsheet  was                                                            
being  referenced. The  following Sections  are as  depicted in  the                                                            
February 7, 2005 spreadsheet.]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:16:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                 
     Section: 2(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Community Advocacy                                                                                                    
      Supplemental Need: Small city energy assistance program                                                                   
     $6,450,000 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that a change to this Section  would be that                                                            
the specified  $25,000,  $50,000,  or $75,000  community  allocation                                                            
would be used to pay toward  the community's outstanding debt to the                                                            
State's Bulk  Fuel Loan  Program. Any balance  remaining after  that                                                            
payment could be applied  toward the purchase of more fuel, with the                                                            
condition  that the invoice  be submitted to  the State. This  money                                                            
would lapse on June 30, 2005.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson understood  therefore  that  a community  whose  debt                                                            
exceeded its allocation  would not have funds with which to buy more                                                            
fuel.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  replied  that  that is  correct.  For  example,  a                                                            
community with  an allocation of $50,000 and an outstanding  debt of                                                            
$126,000, would have $50,000 paid towards its debt.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked whether  any  provisions  have  been  included                                                            
through which a community could acquire more fuel.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken responded, no.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Section: 3(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Office of the Commissioner                                                                                            
     Supplemental  Need: Support for  enhanced correctional  officer                                                            
     and  probation officer  recruiting efforts  in urban and  rural                                                            
     Alaska.   Workplace  Alaska   alone  is  not  bringing   enough                                                            
     applicants.  The department will  purchase TV and radio  spots,                                                            
     and advertisements  in smaller  publications in locations  such                                                            
      as Seward, Bethel, Nome, Kenai, Eagle River and Mat-SU.                                                                   
     $50,000 General Funds                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  explained that the Department of  Corrections would                                                            
address the  Section 3(a) funding  request via the use of  available                                                            
FY 05 lapsed funds.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:20:17 AM / 9:20:17 AM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Corrections                                                                                                  
     Section: 3(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Administrative Services                                                                                               
     Supplemental  Need: The department is seeking  an e-procurement                                                            
     application    to  lower   purchasing    prices   and   improve                                                            
     efficiencies   within  the  buying  process  for  commodities,                                                             
     equipment, food, and services.                                                                                             
     $225,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated that  Section 3(b)  was zeroed out  with the                                                            
understanding  that  the  e-procurement  application   system  being                                                            
furthered by the Department  of Transportation and Public Facilities                                                            
would   be  successfully   developed   and  implemented   in   other                                                            
departments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Education and Early Development                                                                              
     Section: 4(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Mt. Edgecumbe Boarding School                                                                                         
     Supplemental  Need:  Residential  operating  costs  related  to                                                            
     expanded student population                                                                                                
     $800,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated that  Section 4(b)  has been zeroed  out. It                                                            
was "quite clear" last  year when this issue was initially discussed                                                            
that the  Committee did  not favor such  an appropriation.  However,                                                            
the Administration made  the decision to expend the money. Therefore                                                            
"it is incumbent upon the  Administration to find out how to pay for                                                            
it." The Committee  has continued  to uphold its previous  position.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  voiced the expectation that funding  for the School                                                            
would be included in the FY 06 operating budget.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken remarked  that this discussion pertains to the FY 05                                                            
supplemental request  for the School. Funding is included  in the FY                                                            
06 regular budget proposal.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman,  while  recognizing  "the merits  of  the  table",                                                            
voiced support  for retaining the  funding request. He acknowledged                                                             
the School's funding inclusion in the FY 06 budget.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Environmental Conservation                                                                                   
     Section: 5(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental  Need: Due to safety  issues relating to  emerging                                                            
     bioterrorism  threats  and animal diseases,  changes in  design                                                            
     were necessary  to meet original intent and provide  a safe and                                                            
     secure laboratory  facility. This amendment provides additional                                                            
     funding to cover those design changes and complete                                                                         
      construction of the new Environmental Health Laboratory                                                                   
          $355,000 General Funds                                                                                                
          $500,000 Federal Unrestricted Rcpts                                                                                   
     $855,000 Total Funds                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken noted that  while this request would be fully funded                                                            
at the $855,000  level, there would be a fund source  change in that                                                            
it would be supported entirely with General Funds.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                
     Section: 6(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Disaster Relief Fund                                                                                                  
     Supplemental Need: Base capitalization of fund $1,000.0; 2004                                                              
     Bering Strait Sea Storm $4,054.4; Interior Earthquake                                                                      
     shortfall $259.3; and Kaktovik Winter Storm $2,363.5                                                                       
     $7,677,200 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated  that  the 2004  Bering Straits  storm,  the                                                            
Interior  Earthquake  shortfall,   and  the  Kaktovik  Winter  Storm                                                            
expenses  would  be  provided  for;  however,  the  $1,000,000  base                                                            
capitalization request was denied.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken commented  that further discussion  in this  regard                                                            
would transpire, as the  Department has raised concern regarding the                                                            
absence of the capitalization.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE: Further  clarification regarding  the spreadsheets  occurred.                                                            
From  this  point   forward,  the  March  1,  2005  spreadsheet   is                                                            
referenced.]                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:24:47 AM / 9:25:44 AM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated  that in order to avoid further confusion, he                                                            
would reference Section numbers in his remarks.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:26:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Administration                                                                                               
     Section: 7(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: AOGCC costs for gas pipeline reservoir                                                                  
     studies and depletion plan evaluations.                                                                                    
          $900,000 General Funds                                                                                                
          $300,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                          
     Total Funds: $1,200,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Law                                                                                                          
     Section: 7(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Civil Division, Oil, Gas and Mining                                                                                   
     Supplemental  Need: Legal costs  for work related to  the state                                                            
     gas  pipeline  and  to  bringing North  Slope  natural  gas  to                                                            
     market, and other oil and gas projects for FY 05 and FY 06.                                                                
          $6,750,000 General Funds                                                                                              
          $2,250,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
     Total Funds: $9,000,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     Section: 7(c)(1)                                                                                                           
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental  Need:  Gas  pipeline  risk analysis  and  royalty                                                            
     issues.                                                                                                                    
          $1,875,000 General Funds                                                                                              
          $  625,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
     Total Funds: $2,500,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     Section: 7(c)(2)                                                                                                           
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental  Need: Gas Pipeline corridor geologic  hazards and                                                            
     resource evaluation.                                                                                                       
          $1,500,000 General Funds                                                                                              
          $  500,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
     Total Funds: $2,000,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Revenue                                                                                                      
     Section: 7(e)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need:  Commissioner's Office - Work related to the                                                            
     state gas  pipeline and to bringing North Slope  natural gas to                                                            
     market.                                                                                                                    
          $3,975,000 General Funds                                                                                              
          $1,325,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Revenue                                                                                                      
     Section: 7(f)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental  Need: Alaska  Natural Gas  Development  Authority                                                            
     increased workload for gas pipeline                                                                                        
          $1,627,500 General Funds                                                                                              
          $  542,500 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
     Total Funds: $2,170,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated that while these projects would be fully                                                                 
funded, the recommendation is that the "expenditures be run                                                                     
through" the Legislative Budget & Audit (LB&A) committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     Section 7(d)(1)                                                                                                            
     RDU: Operating                                                                                                             
     Supplemental Need: Gas pipeline Bullen Point Road right-of-way                                                             
     permitting.                                                                                                                
          $2,400,000 General Funds                                                                                              
          $  800,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
     Total Funds: $3, 200,000                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     Section 7(d)(2)                                                                                                            
     RDU: Operating                                                                                                             
     Supplemental Need: Division of Oil and Gas increased workload                                                              
     for gas pipeline.                                                                                                          
          $2,025,000 General Funds                                                                                              
          $  675,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                        
     Total Funds: $2,700,000                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Natural Resources                                                                                            
     Section: 7(d)(3)                                                                                                           
     RDU: Operating                                                                                                             
     Supplemental Need: Commissioner's Office increased workload                                                                
     for gas pipeline.                                                                                                          
          $150,000 General Funds                                                                                                
          $ 50,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                          
     Total Funds: $200,000                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that Sections 7(d)(1), 7(d)(2),  and 7(d)(3)                                                            
would be  funded and  would include  a provision  of an FY 06  lapse                                                            
date.  These  requests  would  not be  addressed  through  LB&A.  He                                                            
recalled  that,  three years  prior,  expenditures  associated  with                                                            
another  resource development  project  had been  addressed  through                                                            
LB&A and, as  per Senator Gene Therriault,  LB&A chair that  "worked                                                            
out  fine." LB&A  has  assured him  that  routing the  gas  pipeline                                                            
expenditures  through LB&A would not  slow the State's gas  pipeline                                                            
efforts.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  noted that  utilizing  Permanent  Fund Corporation                                                             
receipts in this fashion  is not a new process and has been utilized                                                            
many times in the past.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Wilken  expressed   that  the   use  of  Permanent   Fund                                                            
Corporation  receipts as  the designated  Other  Funds for  resource                                                            
development  project   such  as  the  gas  pipeline   is  a  funding                                                            
investment  that would be  reimbursed back  into the Permanent  Fund                                                            
were the project successful.  The gas pipeline funds would amount to                                                            
25-percent,  or approximately  $7,100,000,  of  the overall  funding                                                            
request. Therefore,  this request  has a Fund Source change  in that                                                            
General  Funds  would be  partially  replaced  with  Permanent  Fund                                                            
Corporation receipts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson understood  that  Permanent  Fund earnings  would  be                                                            
utilized as a funding mechanism for the gas pipeline requests.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken affirmed.  "We've done that in the past for resource                                                            
development   issues  that   come  back   in  resource  development                                                             
receipts."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  asked for  confirmation  that  this  would be  the                                                            
Permanent Fund Earnings Reserve Account.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   replied  that,   "technically,  its  Corporation                                                             
receipts," but it is the Earnings Reserve Account.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  noted that this would  be "in the same relationship                                                             
as the deposit would be made from Revenue."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  communicated that it would be 25-percent,  with the                                                            
knowledge that  the 25 percent would  be returned. "That  investment                                                            
will pay itself off in multiples."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Office of the Governor                                                                                                     
     Section: 8                                                                                                                 
     RDU: Arctic National Wildlife Refuge                                                                                       
     Supplemental Need: Funds for support of national efforts to                                                                
      open ANWR for oil and gas exploration and development.                                                                    
          $375,000 General Funds                                                                                                
          $125,000 Permanent Fund Corporation Receipts                                                                          
     Total Funds: $500,000                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated  that, similarly to the gas pipeline funding,                                                            
Permanent Fund  Corporation Receipts would be utilized  to partially                                                            
fund efforts to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE: The following Section  is as depicted in the February 7, 2005                                                            
spreadsheet.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                   
     Section: 9(c)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Health Care Services: Women's and Adolescents Services                                                                
     Supplemental  Need: Feds reduced  FFY 05 funding in  the Breast                                                            
     and Cervical  Cancer screening program. The fund  source change                                                            
     will  allow  services to  1600  enrolled women  that  otherwise                                                            
     would  not be served due to federal  funding reductions.  Funds                                                            
     will be required  by late March or early April  to continue the                                                            
     program.                                                                                                                   
     $500,000 General Funds                                                                                                     
     ($500,000) Federal Funds                                                                                                   
     Total Funds: 0.0                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated  that Section  9(c) was  not funded for  the                                                            
three  reasons: in  an effort  to reduce  costs,  the Department  is                                                            
being asked  "to raise the threshold  of acceptance for those  women                                                            
that are  at risk"  to 40  years of  age rather  than accepting  any                                                            
female, regardless  of age; further clarification  as to whether the                                                            
federal funds being eliminated  were specifically directed to breast                                                            
and cervical  cancer support  or were a general  erosion of  federal                                                            
funds of  which the Department  chose to  remove from this  program;                                                            
and finally,  as reflected  in  the Committee's  recent adoption  of                                                            
Amendment  #1 for  SB 51,  the desire  is to further  clarify  that,                                                            
rather   than  the   expectation   being   that  the   State   would                                                            
automatically offset further  diminished federal funding of programs                                                            
with  general  funds, re-evaluation   of such  an  affected  program                                                            
should occur.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[NOTE: The  following request  is as depicted  in the March  1, 2005                                                            
spreadsheet.]                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Department of Military and Veterans Affairs                                                                                
     Section: 11                                                                                                                
     RDU: National Guard Military Headquarters                                                                                  
     Supplemental Need:  National Guard Audit Disallowance - Federal                                                            
     auditors  have disallowed  state expenditures  in FFY 05  for a                                                            
     total  of $937,234.  This request  will cover  October 2004  to                                                            
     June 2005. An amendment  will be offered in the FY 06 budget to                                                            
     cover  these expenditures  for the remainder  of FFY05  and FFY                                                            
     06.  The department  estimates  they  will run  out of  general                                                            
     funds by the end of March.                                                                                                 
     $297,300 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that the original  $446,000 request  has been                                                            
pared down to  $297,300, as it was determined that  this level would                                                            
be sufficient to address  FY 05 actual needs. The FY 06 budget would                                                            
address FY 06 funding requirements.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken expressed  that this would conclude the changes made                                                            
to  SB 98.  The original  SB  98 General  Fund request  amounted  to                                                            
$97,082,200;  this amount has been  reduced to $87,656,000.  Federal                                                            
funds would  amount to $99,380,800  and Other Funds would  amount to                                                            
$24,492,000  for a total amount of  $211,529,700. These amounts  are                                                            
depicted on the March 1, 2005 spreadsheet.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  requested the Committee  to review the Version  "F"                                                            
committee substitute,  and submit  any proposed amendments  by three                                                            
o'clock.  The  intent  is  that  the  Committee   would  recess  and                                                            
reconvene later in the day to further address the bill.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 9:33:50 AM / 9:33:53 AM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 98                                                                                                         
     "An   Act   making    supplemental   appropriations,    capital                                                            
     appropriations,  other  appropriations,  and reappropriations;                                                             
     amending  appropriations; making  appropriations to  capitalize                                                            
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  stated that the bill is again before  the Committee                                                            
in  order  to  hear  information   regarding  the  Administration's                                                             
proposed  amendments  to SB 98.  The amendments  are  detailed  in a                                                            
handout dated  February 28, 2005 from  Cheryl Frasca, Director,  the                                                            
Office of Management  and Budget addressed  to the House  and Senate                                                            
Finance Committee  Co-Chairs [copy on file]. Upon  the conclusion of                                                            
the  overview,   the  amendments   would  be  incorporated   into  a                                                            
forthcoming committee substitute.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHERYL FRASCA, Director,  Office of Management and Budget, Office of                                                            
the Governor,  stated that the proposed  amendments would  amount to                                                            
approximately  $9.5 million in general  funds, five million  dollars                                                            
in Other Funds, and $8.7  million in Federal Funds. She reviewed the                                                            
requests depicted in the handout as follow.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     FAST TRACK SUPPLEMENTAL AMENDMENTS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Amend.  Sec. 1,  Department of  Administration,  by adding  new                                                            
     subsections to read:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          (b) The sum of $5,003,000 is appropriated from the                                                                    
     information  services fund to the Department  of Administration                                                            
     for State  of Alaska network security infrastructure  upgrades.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN BROOKS,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department  of Administration,                                                             
reminded the  Committee that the State  experienced "a cyber  attack                                                            
on  its  network  system  in  mid-January"   2005.  This  event  has                                                            
underscored  the fact that  efforts must  be advanced "to  solidify"                                                            
the   State's   telecommunications   and   Information    Technology                                                            
infrastructure,  and therefore,  while $17  million was included  in                                                            
the Department's  original FY 06 request  to address this  and other                                                            
things,  $5 million  is  being  requested  via this  legislation  to                                                            
immediately  address  network deficiencies.  He  noted that  federal                                                            
agencies  are involved in  the investigation  regarding the  January                                                            
attack.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken asked how  the inclusion of  this request in  SB 98                                                            
would  affect  the  Department's   FY 06  network   security  budget                                                            
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks   stated  that  were   this  request  included   in  the                                                            
supplemental bill,  a $12 million request rather than  a $17 million                                                            
request would be included in the FY 06 Capital budget.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          (c) The sum of $6,175,000 is appropriated from the                                                                    
     general fund to the Department of Administration for Alaska                                                                
     land mobile radio (ALMR) infrastructure upgrades.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:38:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  explained  that  this new  $6.1  million  general  fund                                                            
request  would provide infrastructure  upgrades  to the Alaska  Land                                                            
Mobile  Radio  project  (ALMR),  which  is  a  joint  project  being                                                            
conducted with  the federal Department  of Defense (DOD).  There are                                                            
approximately  87 radio sites located between Kodiak  and Fairbanks,                                                            
which  provide communications   for voice  data video.  The  request                                                            
would provide  enhanced service to the Department  of Public Safety,                                                            
the Department of Military  and Veterans Affairs, and the Department                                                            
of Administration  to fulfill the  State's obligation regarding  its                                                            
agreement with DOD "to shore up this network."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  stated that  this money  would allow  the State  to meet                                                            
some  May 2005  contractual  deadlines. A  similar  amount of  money                                                            
would be requested  in the FY 06 budget to continue  these upgrades.                                                            
The federal  government has  provided approximately  $43 million  to                                                            
purchase equipment for  these sites, and in addition, has pledged an                                                            
additional $100 million investment in this regard.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson asked how  this request would impact the FY 06 budget.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks stated  that  the total  ALMR  funding would  amount  to                                                            
approximately   $12,400,000.   Were   this  request   granted,   the                                                            
$6,400,000  balance would be included  in the FY 06 capital  budget.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  surmised  therefore  that this  six  million  dollar                                                            
increment  would be in addition  to the Department  of Military  and                                                            
Veterans Affairs' proposed FY 06 budget.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  clarified  that this request  would  be included  in the                                                            
Department of Administration's FY 06 capital budget.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  noted  that  a budget  amendment  to  this  effect  was                                                            
recently submitted.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  expressed that while work  on the ALMR project  has been                                                            
conducted  for several months,  the request  was not been  submitted                                                            
earlier as details were too vague.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  what  benefits   would  be  provided  by  the                                                            
upgrades.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  explained that each of  the sites, ranging from  road to                                                            
mountaintop  sites, has a  communications  tower and an approximate                                                             
ten  by twenty  foot  housing  structure  for the  radio  equipment,                                                            
generators, and batteries.  The current equipment is old and must be                                                            
updated  for  compatibility   and  security  reasons.   An  upcoming                                                            
military    exercise   would   require    communication    component                                                            
enhancements that would be supplied by the military.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked the reason State funding is being  requested if                                                            
the federal government is supplying the equipment.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks expressed that  the military would be supplying equipment                                                            
specific  to their  needs.  The State  funds being  requested  would                                                            
provide for  the upgrades for the  multitude of State agencies  that                                                            
utilize  the  network.  This would  include  first  responders,  the                                                            
Department of  Transportation and Public Facilities,  the Department                                                            
of Health  and Social Services,  and the  Alaska Railroad.  Once the                                                            
upgrades were  in place, DOD would further commit  to paying for on-                                                            
going  operating  and maintenance  expenses  associated  with  these                                                            
sites.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  understood that the reason this amendment  is being                                                            
proposed  "is  because  the  federal  government  did  something  to                                                            
jumpstart us."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  replied "not exactly".  The agreement between  the State                                                            
and DOD  has existed  for several  years. The  driving force  behind                                                            
this  amendment is  to coordinate  the  needs of  the various  State                                                            
departments and  DOD and to upgrade "42 of the most  critical sites"                                                            
in order to  have them tested and  functioning before the  beginning                                                            
of the  August 2005 military  exercise. The  request was delayed  in                                                            
order to provide updated and accurate information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  stated  that,  considering  the  amount  of  money                                                            
involved, an ALMR briefing would be appreciated.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks stated that a briefing could be conducted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Amend  sec. 6, Fund Transfers,  by amending subsection  (a) and                                                            
     adding a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          (a) The sum of $10,004,200 [$6,813,300] is appropriated                                                             
     from the general fund  to the Alaska marine highway system fund                                                            
     (AS 19.65.060(a)).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  stated that  this amendment would  increase the  general                                                            
fund  appropriation  to the  Alaska Marine  Highway  System Fund  to                                                            
provide for the  monetary terms of the Inlandboatmen's  Union of the                                                            
Pacific contract,  which is further  specified in Amendment  sec. 13                                                            
on page  two of  the handout.  Approximately $3.2  million would  be                                                            
required to  address the costs of  the FY 05 contract. Two  sections                                                            
in the Administration's amendments pertain to this contract.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that the packet  contains a January  26, 2005                                                            
memorandum  [copy on file]  from Ray Matiashowski,  Commissioner  of                                                            
the Department  of Administration  to Senate  President Senator  Ben                                                            
Stevens regarding the specifics of the contract.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          (c) The sum of $5,003,500 is appropriated from proceeds                                                               
     of the State  of Alaska master lease line of  credit program to                                                            
     the information  services fund  (AS 44.21.045(a)) for  purposed                                                            
     of financing the following  Department of Administration fiscal                                                            
     year 2005 capital project request:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     PROJECT                                   AMOUNT                                                                           
     State of Alaska      Infrastructure       $5,003,500                                                                       
     Network Security     Upgrades                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca  stated that  Sec.  6,  subsection  (c) relates  to  the                                                            
financing  mechanism  being proposed  to pay  for  the five  million                                                            
dollars  of  network security  infrastructure   upgrades  previously                                                            
discussed  in Amend. Sec.  1, subsection (b).  This line of  credit,                                                            
which had been included  in the FY 06 budget, would be moved forward                                                            
to fund  FY 05 network  expenses  with the intent  to bill  agencies                                                            
through the "EPR rate"  in order to access both "State and non-State                                                            
fund sources to repay this line of credit over time."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken understood  that this money was part of the original                                                            
$17 million request.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca affirmed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Amend  sec.  8,  Office  of  the  Governor,  by  adding  a  new                                                            
     subsection to read:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          (b) The sum of $160,000 is appropriated from the general                                                              
     fund to the Office  of the Governor, division of elections, for                                                            
     increased costs for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2005.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  stated that this  amendment would  provide funds  to the                                                            
Division  of Elections to  address increased  costs associated  with                                                            
such things  as the AccuVote voting  machines maintenance  and lease                                                            
cost increases  in FY 05. Postage  and shipping costs, unassociated                                                             
with separate  Division of Election legislation that  had previously                                                            
reported from Committee, would also be provided for.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Amend  sec. 13, Salary and Benefit  Adjustments, by  adding new                                                            
     subsections to read:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          (d) The sum of $3,190,000 is appropriated from the Alaska                                                             
     marine highway system  fund (AS 19.65.060(a)) to the Department                                                            
     of  Transportation   and  Public   Facilities,  marine   vessel                                                            
     operations,  in order  to implement the  monetary terms  of the                                                            
     collective  bargaining agreement for the Inlandboatmen's  Union                                                            
     of the  Pacific, representing  the unlicensed marine  unit, for                                                            
     the fiscal year ending June 30, 2005.                                                                                      
          (e) If the appropriation made by (d) of this section                                                                  
     takes  effect,  it takes  effect  on  the date  the  collective                                                            
     bargaining agreement  listed in (d) of this section is ratified                                                            
     by  the membership  of  the  respective  collective  bargaining                                                            
     unit.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  stated that this  request would  address FY 05  expenses                                                            
associated  with   the  collective  bargaining  agreement   for  the                                                            
Inlandboatmen's   Union  of  the   Pacific,  which  was   previously                                                            
discussed.  "This  is  the  actual  appropriation  from  the  Marine                                                            
Highway System Fund to make those payments."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Amend  sec.  15(a), Department  of  Transportation  and  Public                                                            
     Facilities Federal Projects, to read:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          Sec.   15.  DEPARTMENT   OF  TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC                                                            
          FACILITIES  FEDERAL PROJECTS. (a) The appropriation to the                                                            
          Department  of Transportation  and  Public Facilities  for                                                            
          the  Airport Improvement Program made  by sec. 1, ch. 159,                                                            
          SLA  2004, page 35, line 22, is increased by appropriating                                                            
          from       federal       receipts      an       additional                                                            
          $14,285,000[$5,850,000], to be allocated as follows:                                                                
                (1) Kotzebue: Obstruction Removal and                                                                           
                 Safety Area (HD 40)                      $5,300,000                                                            
                (2) Tenakee Springs: Seaplane Float                                                                             
                Rehabilitation (AD 5)                        550,000                                                            
                (3) Cold Bay: Airport Terminal Master                                                                         
                     Plan (HD 37)                            200,000                                                          
                (4) Deadhorse: Airport Runway Safety                                                                          
                Area Expansion (HD 40)                     8,000,000                                                          
                (5) Unalaska: Airport Terminal Master                                                                         
                Plan and Improvements (HD 37)                500,000                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca stated that  this is the Administration's final amendment                                                            
to the Fast  Track Supplemental bill.  These three capital  projects                                                            
being added could get underway  in March or April 2005, provided the                                                            
authorization is given to spend the federal funds early.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken calculated  that the  State would  be realizing  an                                                            
additional nine million dollars in federal funding.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca deferred  to the Department of Transportation  and Public                                                            
Facilities  in order to ascertain  whether this would be  additional                                                            
funding.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked  whether  funding  for  this  request  would                                                            
replace other projects.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  SLAGLE,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Transportation  and  Public Facilities,  stated  that                                                            
this amendment regards  federal airport improvement funding. Some of                                                            
the funding is  discretionary in that it is additional  funding that                                                            
was  made  available   to  the  State  from  the  Federal   Aviation                                                            
Administration  (FAA). Approval of  this amendment would  not result                                                            
in replacing  any other funds that  the Department would  receive in                                                            
its regular entitlement program.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked regarding the reference to HD 40 and HD 5.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca clarified that "HD" is a reference to House District.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Amend sec. 17(a), Lapse of Appropriation, to read:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          (a) The appropriations made by secs. 1(b), 1(c), 7(a),                                                              
     7(c), 7(d), and 7(e) of this Act are for capital projects and                                                              
     lapse under AS 37.25.020.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Frasca  expressed that  this technical  amendment would  specify                                                            
that the  funds being  requested in  Section 1(b)  and 1(c)  for the                                                            
ALMR and network security upgrade requests would not lapse.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Frasca   stated  that  this   concludes  the  Administration's                                                             
amendments to the Fast Track Supplemental bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 97                                                                                                         
     "An    Act   making    supplemental,    capital,   and    other                                                            
     appropriations, and  reappropriations; amending appropriations;                                                            
     making   appropriations   to   capitalize  funds;   making   an                                                            
     appropriation  under art. IX,  sec. 17(c), Constitution  of the                                                            
     State of  Alaska, from the constitutional budget  reserve fund;                                                            
     and providing for an effective date."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the third  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken stated that  the Department  of Transportation  and                                                            
Public Facilities  would be continuing  its overview of its  Regular                                                            
Supplemental bill requests.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE: 9:51:53 AM / 9:53:09 AM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Item 124                                                                                                                   
     Section: 17(i)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Central Region Highways and Aviation                                                                                  
     Supplemental  Need:  Anchorage  snowhaul  and  equipment  fuel,                                                            
     utilities, sand and steel cost increases.                                                                                  
     $1,374,400 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NANCY  SLAGLE,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities  stated  that                                                            
these request  is the result of fuel,  utility, and commodity  price                                                            
increases as well as an  increase of approximately $130,000 relating                                                            
to Anchorage  snowhauling  expenses.  Fuel expenses  have  increased                                                            
approximately   30-percent  or  $500,000;   utility  expenses   have                                                            
increased  approximately  six-percent  or $70,000;  and steel  price                                                            
increases  have  directly  impacted   the Department's   ability  to                                                            
replace  grader blades,  culverts, and  road signs.  Sand, salt  and                                                            
chemical costs  have also increased.  Commodity increases  amount to                                                            
approximately  $680,000. The Department's  FY 05 Anchorage  downtown                                                            
area   snowhauling   budget  had   been   reduced   "a  little   too                                                            
aggressively" by $250,000.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Item 125                                                                                                                   
     Section: 17(j)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Northern Region Highways and Aviation                                                                                 
     Supplemental  Need: Equipment  fuel, utilities, and  steel cost                                                            
     increases.                                                                                                                 
     $1,399,500 General Funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Item 126                                                                                                                   
     Section: 17(k)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Southeast Region Highways and Aviation                                                                                
     Supplemental Need: Equipment fuel, sand, chemicals and steel                                                               
     cost increases.                                                                                                            
     $263,400 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that Sections 17(i), 17(j),  and 17(k) depict                                                            
similar  expenses  for  other  regions  of  the  State. Continuing,                                                             
however,  he asked the  reason Anchorage  snowhauling expenses  were                                                            
considered  part of  the Central  Region  rather  than the  Interior                                                            
Region.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  informed that the State  has assumed responsibility  for                                                            
downtown  Municipality  of  Anchorage roads'  snowhauling  as  State                                                            
roads transit  through the Municipality.  She pointed out  that snow                                                            
removal  in Anchorage  "is more  of an issue"  than  it is in  other                                                            
communities through which  State roads travel. The State's Anchorage                                                            
snowhauling  budget  was  reduced  in the  FY  05 budget,  based  on                                                            
historical  snowfall records; however,  snowfall has exceeded  those                                                            
averages.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle concurred  that Sections 17(i), (j), and  (k) are similar                                                            
in nature.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 17(l)                                                                                                             
     RDU: State Equipment Fleet Administration                                                                                  
     Supplemental Need: Fuel increases - credit card expenditures                                                               
     reimbursed by user agencies.                                                                                               
     $1,100,000 Highway Working Capital Fund                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle stated  that  this Fund  authorization  is specifically                                                             
related to fuel cost increases.  The State equipment fleet contracts                                                            
out the  amount  of fuel  that is utilized,  and  the various  State                                                            
agencies  are  provided  a credit  card  through  which consumption                                                             
charges are tracked. The  bills are submitted to the State Equipment                                                            
Fleet, which  in turn,  bills the agencies  for reimbursement.  This                                                            
request  pertains to the  authorization to  expend those  reimbursed                                                            
monies.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Stedman  asked   whether  the  State   could  track   fuel                                                            
consumption by vehicle.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle responded  that  the process  is  designed  to track  by                                                            
credit card  rather than  by vehicle. Since  the credit cards  could                                                            
also be used  for bulk purchases,  it would be difficult  to track a                                                            
specific   vehicle's   consumption   unless   a  credit   card   was                                                            
specifically  used for one vehicle.  Mileage and maintenance  costs,                                                            
however, are tracked per vehicle in the fleet.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  how  the  Department   addresses  the  rising                                                            
expenses of  non-State employees who  are under contract  to service                                                            
Bush Alaska airports.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle   asked  for  whether   the  question  regards   general                                                            
maintenance contracts that are in affect for Rural airports.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  affirmed that this concern regards  those responsible                                                            
for  such  things  as snow  removal  in  places  like  Savoonga  and                                                            
Shaktoolik.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle understood  that  such  contracts are  bid  out and  re-                                                            
negotiated  on a  regular  basis of  approximately  two years.  This                                                            
provides the ability to address increasing expenses.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  stated therefore,  that when  the airport manager  at                                                            
Salmon  Bay contacts him  and relays  "that the  price of fuel  just                                                            
jumped" by a certain percent  that his response would be that he had                                                            
to abide  by a Department  of Transportation  and Public  Facilities                                                            
contract  that would  be re-negotiated  every  few  years. He  asked                                                            
whether provisions have been made to address such a scenario.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  replied  that  further information   regarding  pricing                                                            
indexes for  Rural Alaska  would be provided.  While the  Department                                                            
does have the  ability to incorporate  such cost increases  into the                                                            
contracts  for Rural  areas, there  is no specific  need to  address                                                            
this currently  as, had the situation  been different, a  request of                                                            
that nature would have  been brought forward. Therefore, she assumed                                                            
that such matters are being addressed internally.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  voiced that rather  than his concern being  about the                                                            
contracts,  his concern is about the  increased fuel costs  to those                                                            
independent contractors.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  responded   that  in  several  instances,  independent                                                             
contractors utilize  State equipment for Rural airport  maintenance.                                                            
She was  uncertain as to  whether the fuel  used in those cases  was                                                            
included  in  the  contract  conditions  or whether  the  State  was                                                            
responsible for it. She would clarify this.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 17(m)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Statewide Information Services                                                                                        
     Supplemental Need: Funding for telecommunications chargeback                                                               
     costs. FY 04 supplemental funding was not built into FY 05                                                                 
     budget, thereby causing a shortfall.                                                                                       
     $659,600 General Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle explained  that  this  request  is associated  with  the                                                            
amount  of funds  that  the Department  pays  to the  Department  of                                                            
Administration  for its  Enterprise Productivity  Rate (EPR)  usage,                                                            
which  is   specifically   associated  with   technology  that   the                                                            
Department of  Administration is providing to the  Department. These                                                            
rates have been increasing  over the years and a similar request was                                                            
before  the Committee  in the FY  04 Supplemental  legislation.  The                                                            
Department's  budget  has  not been  adjusted  to  accommodate  this                                                            
expense.  Some "shifting  of rates"  did occur;  however it did  not                                                            
alleviate the  pressure on the Department's budget  as was intended.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  asked the  reason  that this  sort  of request  is                                                            
specific to the  Department of Transportation and  Public Facilities                                                            
and not to others.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  responded  that these  expenses relate  to the usage  of                                                            
computers and  associated peripherals such as printers.  The current                                                            
formula,  which the  Department of  Administration  developed  a few                                                            
years  prior,  is based  on  department position  counts.  This  has                                                            
"greatly  impacted"  the Department  of  Transportation  and  Public                                                            
Facilities  as it  has equipment  operators  and  over 1,800  Marine                                                            
Highway  vessel employees  who  work in the  field and  do not  have                                                            
access to  computers or  telephones. Another  consideration  is that                                                            
many of the  Department's operations  are conducted 24-hours  a day.                                                            
The combination  of these  things incurs more  of these expenses  on                                                            
the Department  of Transportation  and Public Facilities  than other                                                            
departments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked what would occur were this  request unfunded.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle responded  that the Department would be  required to make                                                            
"drastic  changes between now  and the end  of the year." The  money                                                            
would be drawn  from other programs,  specifically the highways  and                                                            
aviation program  as those are the  programs that have general  fund                                                            
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked whether not funding  this request might  result                                                            
in "risk to life or limb."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle stated  that the response to that question  is difficult.                                                            
Funding  it  with  existing  program  general   fund  dollars  would                                                            
negatively  affect the Department's  ability  to adequately  address                                                            
Spring road issues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  whether general  fund dollars  were the  only                                                            
funding  option;   specifically  whether  federal   funds  might  be                                                            
utilized.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle stated  that federal funds could be utilized  for general                                                            
administrative support  as well as for indirect cost allocation plan                                                            
(ICAP) funding  which are those funds not designated  for a specific                                                            
project. However,  the Department has utilized available  ICAP funds                                                            
to the maximum level and there is no further flexibility.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked whether  other  non-federal  funding  options                                                            
might be available.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle responded that  ICAP funds are calculated as a percentage                                                            
of  each  construction  project,   whether  the  funding  source  is                                                            
federal, State, or International  Airport Bond Funds. The Department                                                            
endeavors to maximize all funding sources.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 17(n)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Central Region Highways and Aviation                                                                                  
     Supplemental Need: King Salmon air traffic control current                                                                 
     year contract.                                                                                                             
     $68,000 General Funds                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  stated that these funds  are in addition to the  $44,500                                                            
request  included  in the  Fast  Track Supplemental  bill  that  was                                                            
specific  to FY  04 expenses.  This request  pertains  to the  costs                                                            
associated with the King Salmon Airport Control Tower for FY 05.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  commented that funding of this request  is imperative                                                            
as,  from personal  experience,  he  characterized  the  airport  as                                                            
resembling  a busy  mosquito  beehive. He  noted  that this  funding                                                            
might have  averted the incident  in which  an aircraft had  knocked                                                            
down the control tower a few years earlier.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated that this request would advance.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 17(o)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Human Resources                                                                                                       
     Supplemental Need: Shortage in realizing savings due to delay                                                              
     in implementing electronic timesheets.                                                                                     
     $140,000 Various Funding                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle  informed that  funds  had  been  reduced in  the  Human                                                            
Resources component  of the Department's FY 05 operating  budget due                                                            
to anticipation  that the implementation of an electronic  timesheet                                                            
would reduce  expenses. However, the  implementation of that  system                                                            
has been  delayed and the  Department has  been required to  pay the                                                            
Department of Administration for Human Resources services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   understood  therefore  that   the  FY  05  budget                                                            
reflected the decrement relating to this system.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle communicated  that a $160,000 decrement  was reflected in                                                            
the FY 05 budget.  A $20,000 general  fund decrement of that  amount                                                            
is not being requested.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde observed  that, on  numerous occasions,  the  savings                                                            
anticipated  to result from consolidation  or improved technologies                                                             
have  not been  realized.  To  that  point, he  asked  whether  this                                                            
endeavor "would eventually save money."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle assured that  it would, as an electronic timesheet system                                                            
would avoid  the process  of duplicating  data entries  by staff  as                                                            
well  as any  associated  errors that  might  occur  in the  current                                                            
payroll process.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked when  the anticipated savings would be realized.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle responded that  no related funding is requested in the FY                                                            
06 budget, as the system should be in operation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde hoped this  issue would  not resurface  in the  FY 06                                                            
supplemental request legislation.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 18(a)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: Airport Improvement Program increase of $18                                                             
     million in federal funds as allocated.                                                                                     
     Total Funds: zero                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   MACKINNON,  Deputy   Commissioner   of   Highways  &   Public                                                            
Facilities,  Department  of Transportation  and  Public Facilities,                                                             
specified  that this  request is  the result  of additional  federal                                                            
funds being  realized late  in FY 05. The  projects provided  for by                                                            
this  funding  would be  of  Statewide significance  and  would  not                                                            
displace existing projects.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Item: 138                                                                                                                  
     Section: 18(b)(4)                                                                                                          
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: Statewide: Emergency Bridge Replacement                                                                 
     $800,00 Federal Funds                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked the location of the bridge  addressed by this                                                            
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  expressed  that, rather  than being  a specific  bridge,                                                            
this request  would allow  the Department  to temporarily  stockpile                                                            
goods  in Anchorage  and  Fairbanks.  The Department  currently  has                                                            
sufficient  material  to replace  an  approximate  100-foot  bridge;                                                            
however, double that amount of material is required.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  understood therefore that no specific  bridge would                                                            
be addressed by this request.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Item 136                                                                                                                   
     Section: 18(b)(2)                                                                                                          
     RDU: Capital                                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: Statewide: Comprehensive Highway Safety                                                                 
     Plan.                                                                                                                      
     $500,000 Federal Funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  stated that Congressional  re-authorization legislation                                                             
being considered  would require  states to  develop a comprehensive                                                             
safety  plan. This  funding  would further  this  plan, which  would                                                            
include  crash data, crash  patterns, safety  and education  issues,                                                            
and  the  potential  implementation  of  methods  through  which  to                                                            
address  these and other  issues. She  noted that  the FY 06  budget                                                            
contains a similar request.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked whether federal funding would  also support the                                                            
FY 06 request.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle concurred.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked when the Safety Plan project began.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  voiced the understanding  that this project has  not, of                                                            
yet, begun  and that this funding  would allow for its development.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green recalled  a  Committee discussion  in  which it  was                                                            
determined  that only continuing projects  could be included  in the                                                            
supplemental bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked the  Department's understanding of whether new                                                            
programs could begin in a supplemental bill.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle understood otherwise.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken commented that this might be a policy decision.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  understood the definition of a supplemental  request                                                            
to be limited to continuing  programs only. To that point, she asked                                                            
whether this project could be delayed until FY 06.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  additionally  asked  whether  this  request  would                                                            
require a State match.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  stated that a  State match would  be required,  and that                                                            
the Department  does have  adequate funding  available in its  FY 05                                                            
match program. Several  of the associated projects have begun or are                                                            
in the Environmental  Impact Study  (EIS) stage. The Department  has                                                            
not followed "any  type of guideline or policy" that  would prohibit                                                            
a new project  from coming forward.  The money is available  and the                                                            
construction portions  of the project could be advertised  and begun                                                            
as  early as  May.  Beginning  projects early  in  the construction                                                             
season would be beneficial "in the long run."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken asked regarding the Match level.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Slagle responded  that  the match  would be  approximately  4.5                                                            
percent, provided  this was a Surface  Transportation Program  (STP)                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  noted that a nine percent minimum  State match might                                                            
be required.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Slagle  voiced  that the  Department  has a  variety of  federal                                                            
highway funding  options available,  each with different  match rate                                                            
requirements.  The bridge has a 20-percent match rate.  Regular STPs                                                            
require a 4.5 percent match level.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken stated  that this concludes department presentations                                                            
on both SB 97 and SB 98.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The bill was HELD in Committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken announced  that the  Committee  would recess  until                                                            
later  in the  day,  with  the intent  to  address  any forthcoming                                                             
amendments and report SB 98 from Committee.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RECESS: 10:18:30 AM / 3:00:19 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken announced  that the meeting, which had been intended                                                            
to continue at  five o'clock, has been cancelled.  The intent of the                                                            
Chair is to  include the amendments  proposed by the Administration                                                             
in a committee  substitute for SB 98 that would be  addressed at the                                                            
March  third  Committee   hearing.  Members'  amendments   would  be                                                            
considered  at that time,  with the intent  to report the bill  from                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken adjourned the meeting at 03:01 PM.                                                                              

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